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Playing Mahjong for Points, Not Money: A Points System for Clubs

Lots of mahjong clubs, university societies and café meetups play without money, and plenty of venues would not let them do anything else. Playing for points keeps the game exactly as tense and the standings just as worth arguing about. This guide sets out a points system you can adopt as it is or adapt: Hong Kong faan turned into points, simpler flat scoring, points for American Mah Jongg, zero-sum or independent scores, and how to turn a run of club nights into a season with prizes that are not cash.

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No sign-up. Scores show as plain numbers, so they read as points.

Why clubs play for points

Can you play mahjong without money? Of course. The game is the same game; only the thing being counted changes. Clubs choose points for a few practical reasons.

Hong Kong mahjong points system (chart)

Hong Kong (Cantonese) mahjong already has a scoring system: you count the faan in a winning hand, and faan turn into a payout that grows as the hand gets bigger. To play for points, keep the system and drop the dollar sign. The chart below uses the same steps as the most common Hong Kong table, 二五雞 with half-doubling (半辣上), a 3-faan minimum and a 10-faan cap, from our payout table.

FaanDiscard win: discarder paysSelf-drawn: each of three paysSelf-drawn: winner collects
3 faan8412
4 faan16824
5 faan241236
6 faan321648
7 faan482472
8 faan643296
9 faan9648144
10 faan (cap)12864192

To work out how many faan a hand is worth, see the Hong Kong mahjong scoring table, or print the Hong Kong mahjong cheat sheet, which has this ladder on side two.

A worked example

Ann, Ben, Cat and Dev play three hands:

  1. Ann wins a 5-faan hand off Ben's discard. Ben pays Ann 24.
  2. Cat self-draws a 4-faan hand. Ann, Ben and Dev each pay Cat 8, so Cat collects 24.
  3. Dev wins a 3-faan hand off Ann's discard. Ann pays Dev 8.
PlayerHand 1Hand 2Hand 3Total
Ann+24−8−8+8
Ben−24−80−32
Cat0+240+24
Dev0−8+80
Sum0000

Every point one player wins, another player loses, so each column adds up to zero. That makes mistakes easy to spot: if a game's totals do not sum to zero, something was written down wrong.

Flat scoring: a simpler points system

Faan and doubling take a few weeks to learn. A beginners' table, or a club that mixes styles, can use flat scoring instead: every win is worth the same, with a little extra for a self-draw. For example:

That version is still zero-sum. If you would rather nobody goes below zero, score only the winner: 1 point for each win and 1 more for a self-draw, and the player with the most points at the end of the night or season comes top. The numbers are yours to choose. What matters is that the whole club uses the same ones, written down in your house rules.

American Mah Jongg points

American Mah Jongg players build hands from the current year's card, and the card lists a value for each hand. Many groups that play for points simply use those values as points, and the group decides the rest: what a discarder pays, what happens on a self-pick and any extras you play. Agree it once, write it in your house rules and keep it for the whole season.

American scores can be kept as transfers between players, or as each player's own running score. In Mahjong Logbook, American games are entered per player, positive, negative or zero, with no zero-sum check, so either approach fits. Mahjong Logbook keeps the record and the standings; it does not score or check card hands. More on the American Mahjong score tracker page.

Zero-sum or independent scores?

Zero-sumIndependent
How it worksPoints move between players; one player's gain is another's lossEach player's score stands on its own
Good forHong Kong and HK-Taiwanese style, and anyone used to money-style scoringAmerican Mah Jongg groups, and winner-only flat scoring
StrengthBuilt-in check: every game sums to zeroNobody has to "pay"; gentle for beginners
Watch out forA beginner can sink deep below zero on one bad nightNo automatic check on mistakes

Pick one per variant and keep it for the season. Changing halfway makes old and new games impossible to compare.

Turning club nights into a season

A single night's points are fun. A season's points give people a reason to come back every week.

Prizes that are not cash

A season needs something at the end of it. It does not have to be money.

Prizes can be regulated too in some places, especially when players pay an entry fee that goes towards them. If you plan to charge for entry or give prizes of real value, check the rules where you are first.

Chips, paper or an app

How Mahjong Logbook handles points

The mahjong club score tracker page walks through a club night in more detail.

Play for points, keep the standings

Create a room for your club, post the link in the group chat, and every table logs its game as plain points. The leaderboard, season filter and each player's history update on their own. Free for up to 10 active players, no sign-up and nothing to install.

Keep score in a shared room →

Starting from scratch? See how to start a mahjong club and the mahjong club starter kit.

FAQ

Can you play mahjong without money?

Yes. Mahjong works exactly the same with points instead of money, and many clubs, university societies and meetups play that way. Keep your usual scoring, count it as points, and keep a leaderboard so there is still something to play for.

Is mahjong gambling?

Mahjong is a game, and it can be played with no stakes at all. Whether a particular game counts as gambling usually depends on whether money or something of value is at stake, and the rules differ from place to place. This is not legal advice: check local law and your venue or students' union rules. Playing for points only avoids the question for most clubs.

How do you score Hong Kong mahjong for points?

Count the faan as usual and use the payout steps as points. With 二五雞 half-doubling, 3 faan is 8 points, 4 faan 16, 5 faan 24, 6 faan 32, 7 faan 48, 8 faan 64, 9 faan 96 and 10 faan 128. On a discard win the discarder pays the full amount; on a self-drawn win each of the other three pays half.

Should club mahjong scores be zero-sum?

For Hong Kong and HK-Taiwanese style, usually yes: points move between players, and every game adding up to zero is a handy check for mistakes. American Mah Jongg groups and winner-only flat scoring often keep each player's score on its own instead. Pick one per variant and keep it for the season.

How do you rank mahjong players across a season?

Add up each player's points across the season, or rank by average points per game if attendance is uneven. With averages, set a minimum number of games to qualify so one lucky night cannot top the table. A term or a quarter is a good season length.

What prizes can a mahjong club give instead of cash?

A trophy that passes from champion to champion, a title such as club champion or best newcomer, the right to choose the next venue, or the winner's name on the club's noticeboard. Prizes can also be regulated in some places, especially when entry fees pay for them, so check first.